0.1% and 1‰

I have been reading some translation industry reports in the library over the last few days and all the figures reminded me of a little interpreting ‘blank-out’ moment I had before, brought on by the different ways of counting numbers in English and in Chinese.

We were discussing the amount of additives in a chemical toughening process. The Chinese engineer used the phrase ‘qian fen zhi yi’. When interpreting I realized there is only the term ‘percent’ in common English, not a translation of ‘qian fen zhi yi’. After a failure of communication by drawing the symbol ‘1‰’, and 10 seconds struggling with converting, I finally got it right–“qian fen zhi yi” is 0.1%! The very common ‰ symbol in Chinese is not even used commonly in English.

English counts in three digits together, in order of thousand, million, billion…etc; Chinese counts in four digits, goes in order of wan (ten thousand), yi (a hundred million)…etc; I have now discovered the same difference exists at the other end of the spectrum. Poor 1‰ has to be denied its existence and always become 0.1% in English.

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    haha, interesting, that should be the fun part of a translation service translation service, a translator is sort of a bridge between two cultures, you are watching the difference between them, and trying to figure out a way to make each other understood.

    I’m sure you should face this kind of fun everyday, that makes a translator seem to work in such an interesting industry.

    • avatar

      That’s a sensible answer to a challenging qeustoin

  2. avatar

    What a strange translation… I would never have guessed that numbers translate differently…


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